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and ASG for this opportunity to share with you some colon EMR cases. So I figured a lot of times at these conferences, you always see the best of the best, right? You'll see the best cases all done in 30 minutes or your pizza's free. So I figured, oh, no disclosures by the way. So I figured I would like to show you a case actually from the very ancient archives when I first started EMR, and in fact, I am a testament to the ASG E-STAR program. I was very honored to have been selected for the very first inaugural class. In case you guys are listening in the back, I'm still looking for the inaugural class photo. But this was 2014, so you can see we're using sort of, you know, standard def scopes. And I will actually, I want this to be as instructive as possible, so I'm going to stop right, pause right there. That actually was a focus of high grade dysplasia, you know, many years after the fact, of course, you know, it's instantly apparent. But at the time, when you're in the zone, you're very sort of anxious, you know, you kind of just, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure. And so the other thing I would like to highlight is I used the colonoscope, except this was actually in the rectosigmoid location. This becomes very unwieldy, and so this is one of the teaching points, is to use the right tool for the job. Now in, obviously, many years later, in a location like this, I would have chosen, for example, therapeutic upper endoscope, because it is much easier to navigate and negotiate in that low of a location. And so what we do is we like to inject, and I'm very honored to have Dr. Dragunov as one of the course directors. He likes to describe this color as Carolina blue. It never occurred to me what Carolina blue was, and so I instantly Googled it. And so this is exactly what I did. I drilled my nurses to, you know, make that shade of blue. And this is also an important part. So again, when you're starting EMR practice, it's important to know, you know, to get the snare to the right margin. And we drilled this down very importantly, because otherwise, it just becomes very sloppy and you end up having to clean up afterwards. So fortunately, I did recognize that before. And so again, you know, as you can see, it's almost like, you know, baby taking their first steps. You know, I was able to reposition the snare, and if it looks somewhat painful in the back of the room, because it was incredibly painful. And in fact, notice here, even the scope handling and the snaring is not ideal. And I show this precisely because, you know, I was you, right, when I first started the practice. You know, I really want to encourage every single audience member who has the passion to reach for the stars. Sorry, that was a little plug for the ASG star program. You know, and even here, you can see that the snare position was not optimal. You know, I was way too far, and the snare was way too far out into the distance. And so now, it was a safe, successful procedure, but there's definitely room for improvement. And just in the interest of time, you know, we want to sort of, again, this is right there. You know, this is not, if my fellows, you know, do this, you know, I will politely give them constructive feedback compliment sandwich. But notice how the tip is down, the snare is up. There's a high likelihood of posterior aspects of the tissue flying off, and that's basically what happened. But long story short, it was a safe, successful procedure, no cancer. And on follow-up, you know, this individual did well on the long-term follow-up. Again, this was back in the very early days of my practice in 2014. So this is a little bit more recently, and you'll notice the technique has changed. Obviously, the definition of the image has improved. When you're dealing with a difficult location such as this, for example, it is critical to have a detailed inspection. And so what we end up doing, as you notice there, you always want to, if possible, intubate the terminal ileum first to make sure it's not actually encroaching into the terminal ileum. And it wasn't at that point. It was close, but, you know, just like in real estate, location, location, location. You always try to resect and mark, I'm sorry, and inject in a so-called dynamic injection as espoused by Kaltenbach and Saticno. And this is very important because, and this is actually a very important part of this video. So I look at EMR sometimes like docking a boat at port. Full disclosure, I don't have a boat. I don't have a port. But there's many subtle maneuvers that you may have to do. Sometimes you have to suction. Sometimes you have to go close. Sometimes you have to torque a little bit. Sometimes you have to do both big and small wheels. Whatever it takes to achieve that proper axis of orientation so you can facilitate the cut. And sometimes it's the use of the appropriate snare, which is stiff. And you see this so-called blueout, right? Don't be alarmed. In fact, I love using the blueout technique in order to make sure that you get good tissue purchase. Sometimes you may see fat at the ileocecal valve. Please do not be alarmed. One big clue is that you have blue staining submucosa underneath. And if you're not sure, as you can see in this case, you can also inject underneath to confirm that you are in the proper plane. And with that, I will stop. Thank you.
Video Summary
In this video, the speaker shares two cases of colon EMR procedures. The first case is from 2014 when the speaker was starting out and using standard def scopes. They discuss the importance of using the right tool for the job and show the process of snaring a lesion. Although the procedure was successful, there was room for improvement. The second case is more recent and demonstrates the use of a detailed inspection and dynamic injection technique. The speaker compares EMR to docking a boat at port and emphasizes the importance of proper maneuvering and using the appropriate snare. Both cases had positive outcomes. The video concludes with gratitude and thanks. No credits were mentioned in the video.
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Karl K. Kwok, MD
Keywords
colon EMR procedures
standard def scopes
snaring a lesion
detailed inspection
dynamic injection technique
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